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  1. JayEm

    JayEm Limited User

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    Hi ODSC,

    I'm a long time rider but new dual sport rider and looking for some input on my new bike which I know little about, as well as a few non bike specific questions. Sorry for the bombardment, I figure I may as well get it all out of the way in one thread.

    What app are you all using for GPX files on your android devices?

    Is there a rule of thumb I can use for setting my chain tension?

    What tire pressures are recommended to start?

    My bike came with OE tires and D606s. Do the OE tires have any advantage over the D606 or are the D606 all around a better tire?

    I have a JD fuel injection controller on the bike supposedly but haven't actually seen it yet, is there a standard place to locate these when installing them or should I just start digging?

    I'm finding the seat height a bit too much for my height and preference, are there any options on an unmodified bike for height adjustment? (I have seat concepts seat which I think helps a bit)

    I'm located in Oakville - are there any trails in the area I can use?

    Are there any good websites for locating places to ride in Halton?

    My speedometer seems to read about 10 percent low - is this normal?

    The previous owner didn't run a chain guard on the bike so I don't have one - is this okay?

    Any recommended chain lube that's easy to find in stores? How often should I reapply?

    Are there any particular brands of oil that the community tends to recommend or can I run my full synthetic of choice?

    A quick google resulted in lots of people running 10W40 instead of the Honda recommended 10W30, are these somewhat interchangeable?

    Is there any oil filter that needs to be changed or cleaned on these bikes?

    Are there any shops in or near Oakville that are recommended for parts and/or service?

    Are there any apps for Android that make for good comms during a ride? If so, are there any reasonably priced helmet kits? Is PTT a thing on bikes?

    Again sorry for so many questions, thanks in advance!


    Jay
  2. Visser

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  3. JayEm

    JayEm Limited User

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    Thanks Visser I'll check those out!
  4. Visser

    Visser Limited User

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    P.S. click my quote above to expand it, I somewhat answered every question...

    To answer your questions with a question, what are you looking to do with your CRF?

    Are you looking to run single track? Just back roads? Both? Commuting/any street use?

    For me, I have a DRZ that I truck to the areas I want to explore. Exploring to me usually doesn't include single track, but it can. I end up on hydro-cuts, ATV trails, logging roads, old rail trails, etc etc... so while I typically don't need full on knobbies, they sure come in handy when I end up in the muck, and it certainly sucks to crash due to having less of a tire than you need. The downside is they don't last all that long either. I'm also not a very tall fella, but I don't want to lose any clearance room for when I have to go over a fallen tree or what-have-you... the DRZ is a tall bike, but with a Seat Concepts low seat, I am good enough to go, no lowering needed.

    Anyway, welcome to ODSC... join some group rides and meet the boys. I typically ride Sundays and could show you some of the Orangeville to Creemore area trails (well, more so just non maintained roads, but an okay introduction to offroading anyway).
  5. GQelements

    GQelements ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Visser' post is spot on.

    Unless you are seriously vertically challenged try not to lower the bike. Learn to dismount on one side keeping th other thigh slung over the bike. It's certainly something that requires practice, but better than bashing the lowered bike on every obstacle.

    With a bike like 250 in Oakville (and if you like actual off-road riding and not just exploring gravel roads) you will either need to develop some patience cruising on the highway to get to the trails or get a trailer/hitch carrier. People fight it but once they try it they seldom go back.

    PM me with your email to get a few decent trail GPS files for creemore area. There also was a small play area near forks of the credit, but not sure on the legality... I can point out the entrance, but then you are on your own. Terrain-wise, it's a decent place to put around if it's your first time on the bike.
  6. JayEm

    JayEm Limited User

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    Whoops, thanks Visser! Amazing response. You're right, I didnt realize it could be expanded.

    To answer a few of your questions as well as GQelements (Thank you as well for the awesome response) the idea of the CRF for me is to be able to ride to trails. I think that's what you mean when you say single track? Not so much interested in cruising gravel roads at random although I don't mind a decent scenic "on road" cruise either, its just not the focus.

    It sounds like I may need to get comfortable with just going for it when I see something that may be ridable, seems like that is what some are doing :)

    As far as the height of the bike goes, dismounting is a bit of a pain and not very graceful but what actually bothered me more was on the weekend I was riding a muddy trail with a high center and fairly deep tire "ruts" and whenever I'd get a little bit slippery and need to kick a foot down I couldn't reach anything. At one point I got stuck and it was so far to the ground I almost didn't have the strength in my leg to hold the bike up I was leaning probably 25 or 30 degrees before I could get a foot down.. wasn't the most confidence inspiring, is all. On level ground I can flat foot one side with the bike upright when I'm stopped at a light, etc.

    No plans for street use other than to get to trails and look for trails (so far that actually means a lot of Street use)

    I don't have a truck so my only option really is to ride to trails at the moment unless I'm with my buddy who also just purchased his first DS.

    GQelements, I've sent you a PM.
  7. michel mondou

    michel mondou ODSC President

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    JayEm: welcome to the club! You'll have a lot of fun riding Dual Sport / single track. I will let the others answer all the detailed questions you have.

    I understand your problem with the height of the bike and getting on/off; a lot of that will be solved with riding experience. Ride as much as you can and you will get used to it.

    As for the engine oil choice, I caution you to take it easy: Oil selection is like Ford vs Chevy or Betty vs Veronica argument; wars, divorces, cataclysms have been triggered by such discussions ;). We've had many discussions here on this forum about this (check out old threads). When in doubt do as the Honda manual tells you, they know how to make their bikes last a long time.

    See you on the trails,

    Michel
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    On the speedo issue...previous owner may have changed front sprocket to 13-T, which is best for this bike. You can get a Speedo corrector as an add-on.
  9. JayEm

    JayEm Limited User

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    Thanks Algae and Michael!

    I'll check the front sprocket - good to know.

    It would make sense, this thing seems to be revving to the moon at 90+
  10. paulap

    paulap ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Did you happen to buy this from Kevin?
    If so you have my old bike.

    If it is then the fuel controller is under the seat.
    There is also a speedo drd intsalled. Cant remeber if thats under the seat as well. At one point it was set fairly close for the 13t but I believe I might have put the 14t back on for some road riding? I may have also changed the rear ?
    I took the chain guard off as I just don't like the look and feel they don't really do much other than collect mud.
    The stock tires are okay for running around on roads but aren't very good once you get off of the gravel.

    If you're ever in the Dundas area I think I might have a few extra things that I found while cleaning out the garage.
  11. JayEm

    JayEm Limited User

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    I did buy it from Kevin :) thanks for the info!
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    paulap ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Great little bikes, I'm sure you'll love it.

    Definitely go with 13T front and I'd even suggest going up a tooth or two in the rear. It always seemed to lack that bit of btm end.

    There is an oil filter on those bikes, you'll have to remove the skid plate to change it (assuming its still on it) and I would change it every time i changed the oil, . As far as oil goes i just bought whatever 10-40W JASO compliant oil Canadian Tire had on sale and never had any problems.

    I think I had an o-ring chain on it. There's lots of debate on whether or not to lube an o-ring chain. I just hit it with WD-40 after rides and after washing to prevent any rust.

    Tire pressure is somewhat dependent on the terrain you'll be riding.

    I believe I would run about 12-14 in the front and about 10-12 in the rear on that bike.
  13. Twoinsane

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    I have the same bike. I have the d606 tires front and rear and although I really don't have anything to compare them to I find they are a good tire for mild street and aggressive off road. The speedo is no longer off the front tire so when you change the gearing it reads wrong.
    There is a programmer for this.
    I'm running a 48 tooth in the rear. Don't do this. Run a 13t front and go from there.
    The gearing I have is great in trails but the chain guides at the back has to be modified to fit
    And it sucks on the road.