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  1. DualSport

    DualSport Ride Organizer

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    OK. The Park to Park Trail will be 230 Kms when it's all developed - only 61 Kms at present - and it runs from Parry Sound to the west edge of Algonquin. I was searching for a trail from Wasaga Beach to Ottawa.

    The Park to Park trail is a bit boring - it's mainly abandoned rail trail on the sections I rode.

    Bob
  2. Smitty

    Smitty Limited User

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  4. maguireb

    maguireb Limited User

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    I have seen no updates or heard or read anything on the federal funding for trails. True I saw the position advertised from OFTR for someone to coordinate the $25M as part of a one year position. I applied but have not had any feedback, so maybe they have someone more qualified in mind.

    That being said the trail funding is partly held up in that the budget was only recently passed in March. The dept with the lead now needs to secure TB authority (author the program terms and conditions and create the controls for the spending and the vote for the funding to be spent under) to access and spend the money and the organization getting the funds needs a ready to go listing of partnership projects for trails for snowmobiles and ATV/motorcycles along with CEAA screening's, SARA screenings and in which DFO is aware of any adjacent water way clearings impacting on fish habitats. This being coupled with Fed/Provincial land use issues, 10 Provinces and 3 Territories worth of riders, some land use consultations with adjacent property owners and hypothetically with First Nations under Duty to Consult and Accomodation plus signage on trails to address two official languages. This all before the hard part of mobilizing volunteers and clubs like ODSC who may get in to helping clear, construct and sign the trails and that all needs volunteers.

    I'd say the trails will happen but not without a load of work.
  5. crazyfrog

    crazyfrog Limited User

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    OFSC (Ont Federation of Snowmobile Club) has been around for a long long time and some district or clubs have problems getting it done. (Clearing trees, brushing, bridges, sings, and equipment maintenance) it all has to get done, and it needs allot of volunteers to get it done.
    Need to break it down by district, and need people to step up at each district and form an exec committee and one person is elected local president and all other are as follow. ( Trail Boss, Trail Signage, Financial, Event, Safety, Permit, Land owner Signage) and lot's of volunteers to help them out on every level.
  6. MichaelJlobodzinski

    MichaelJlobodzinski Limited User

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    As much as I agree with you, I don't think "bike" trails will ever transpire in such a way. Being a sled neck as well, I can see how little impact the sleds have on the surrounding land - especially where it crosses people's front yards. Most of all, the OFSC has such a broad network because of all the private land which is made available. Would you allow ATV's and bikes to rip up your lawn and surrounding land? In most cases, you'll be hard pressed to find a farmer / rural resident who doesn't care!

    Frankly speaking, bike trails (especially ATV's) are not nearly as low impact as sleds are (referring to non-emission's related issues - however sled's have excelled on this front lately as well).

    Forest tracts, such as the Ganny, might be as good as it gets. However unfortunate, it's a realistic outlook.
  7. Relic Rick

    Relic Rick Limited User

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    Will Ontario motorcyclists ever have a trail system to equal the snowmobile system? We could easily have a system like the sled heads because we can purchase Street legal bikes and travel whatever roads and trails are legally open to us. We are not bound to one season but have three (late spring, summer and early fall) avaliable for our enjoyment.
    The only things stopping us from developing a great cross country trail system are time, funds, negative public relations and ourselves. If we have patience, strive for funding (grants, sponsorship, donations, etc.), educate our new riders well, reform (or retire) the few who draw us public scorn and overcome some negativity and laziness from within, we can certainly establish a system. We just got to keep the dream alive and work towards it.
    Ontario is a huge province. Once we wean ourselves off Southern Ontario, realize the true potential of Northern Ontario and widely demonstrate the positive impact we would bring into the communities, things will fall into place.
    Our greatest stumbling block is the 400 series highways and the urban mentality which comes with the suburban sprawl creeping out from them.
    We need to do as Michigan has done. Take our sport far away from the industrial, highly populated urban areas and establish a northern system. This means no longer riding out your garage door but rather trailering north 2 - 4 hours. In Michigan, there are no areas to ride until you reach the upper area of the Lower Penninsula. From that point on to the shores of Lake Superior and the Canadian border, you are travelling a trail system established by and for motorcyclists. They fight the fight, do the trail work and therfore reap the benefits. You can ride D/S speeds for an hour straight and NEVER cross a road. Your arms give out on the single track before the trail ever ends.
    Don't believe me? Do a search for the Cycle Conservation Club of Michigan and spend time on the web site.
    Damn right, we could do it too.
  8. crazyfrog

    crazyfrog Limited User

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    Now your talking. =D>

    It can be done, and we dont need to go one any private property, Unasummed roads and fire access roads or rail beds, then onto to pavement in between all the above.
  9. maguireb

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    Hi. Has anyone on the forum tried out the Seguin trail system as part of the ParktoPark trail? It is a pay per use trail which is sited off the OFTR web page and runs from Parry Sound back toward Peterborough and is 160 km long or so. I understand that the trail is open to dual sport riders and that camping off the main trail is permitted.
  10. Randy_K

    Randy_K Limited User

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    Check the legend on the web site. Only part of the trail is open to off road bikes, even Blue Plated ones. We camped in Parry Sound and rode part of the trail two years ago. For us it was not worth the time. It was just a straight wooped out old railway line. We rode about 5o KM of it so it may be better in a different area.

    Randy