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Discussion in 'GPS Stuff' started by adv.Dan, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. adv.Dan

    adv.Dan ODSC-OFTR Member

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    I am in need of a new gps, what is the latest and greatest in the gps world?
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    Depends on what you will be using it for - seriously!

    If I were buying another GPS for Dual Sport riding, I look for a used Montana 600 or it's replacement, the Montana 610, if I had spare cash.

    A less expensive alternative is the Garmin GPSMAP 78, but it has a small screen. However, it has most of the Montana's essential features.

    If you want to use the GPS for motorcycle touring you'd find the Montana (type) frustrating as it omits an essential feature - "Where To / Near / My current Route". The Zumo's have that feature but are way too expensive for me to recommend them.

    Bob
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    My Montana is the cat's meow for durability, easy of use and screen size / brightness but for on road navigation, it leaves a lot to be desired. As bob said, the Zumo line are much better for "touring" and turn by turn directions and they work off road as well but not nearly as well as the off road models and yes, they are very pricey. If you want a Zumo, keep an eye out regularly on kijiji as there are usually several to choose from. Despite evolving them year after year for the past decade or so, many people still love the original Zumo 550 (I have one for street riding) for its ease of use, big screen and glove friendliness plus they're packaged with everything you'll ever need for mounting on your bike. I often see them on kijiji for anywhere between $100-$300...
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    I'd like to add that the Montana series has a profile feature that allows you to quickly switch all your maps and settings with a push of a button. Also "Nuvi" mode closely resembles an automotive GPS.

    Yes the Montana has some features omitted as Bob suggested, but it also has many that the Zumo doesn't have. The off-road capabilities of the Montana are quite amazing.

    If you're primary street riding, I would get the Zumo. If you're thinking about going off-road and using it on a dirt bike / dual-sport I would get the Montana.


    In automotive+nuvi mode the Montana is very similar to the Zumo, except it doesn't have lane assist / JCT view. I could go on and on about the differences, but frankly it really depends upon the kind of riding you're doing....

    - Chase
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    There's 3 on Kijiji right now, but one feature that's a deal breaker for most off-road riders is that the 550 does NOT allow Tracklogs to be uploaded. It creates tracklogs and lets your transfer them to a computer, but not back to the Zumo. This is actually how I got into making Garmin maps from tracklogs as one of my riding buddies got a 550 as a gift and needed the tracklog import feature. I was able to convert all his tracks into transparent overlay Maps that effectively displayed his tracks over City Navigator, Topo, etc.

    BTW, even the Montana doesn't handle tracklogs as well as it should. When you upload tracks, they default to Hide On Map, and you must use Track Manager to individually set each track to Show On Map. Another reason why I continue to convert all my important tracks to Maps.
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    Rather than paying for and carrying another device around, why not download a gps app for your smartphone. I have been using Gaia on my iPhone. I download the maps I plan to use ahead of time so that all my navigation is done without needing cellular.
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    I do that on my iPhone with maps.me but I don't like using the phone for any kind of adventurous navigation and I've got the Ontario backroads map on my Montana.
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    I tried doing this and ended up destroying a $800 Samsung Galaxy Note 4. With the vibration it destroyed the charging port on the phone, and the screen became messed up.

    Most phones are not dust+waterproof, do not work with gloves and are very difficult to see in the sun.

    After riding around Bethany I had to wipe the mud off my Montana... I could only imagine doing that with my Nexus 6P ;)

    - Chase
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    I mainly want it to use it for offroad riding and loading other people tracks. So it sound like the Montana is the one to go with, right lol? Thanks for all the input guys!
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    Bingo!
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    GPS City has the Montana 610 on sale right now:

    Garmin Montana 610
    • 4" sunlight-readable color touchscreen
    • Rugged and waterproof (IPX-7)
    • 3-Axis Compass, Barometer and Altimeter
    • High-sensitivity GPS and GLONASS
    • Dual orientation-landscape or portrait
    • Dual battery system lithium-ion pack or AA
    • Includes internal and microSD slot memory
    $449.95
    (Save $90 until 07/31)

    http://www.gpscity.ca/garmin-montana-610.html


    Bob
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    Hey Bob, does the Montana 610 come with adequate maps?
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    No, it doesn't have anything but a "Basemap" that stops at major highway detail.

    It's not difficult to find all the maps you need from public sources for free.

    Bob
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    Of course, I should have seen that, sorry
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    No worries... I was starting to think I'd have a Montana in my future :)
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    Bob - what is the downside to this model compared to the others in the Montana line for DS use?
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    There is no downside.

    The Montana 650 and 680 have a built-in camera that's the last option I'd want on a "DS GPS". The "T" models have Garmin Topo maps installed but you can add similar topo's yourself for free. The 600 is no longer available.

    If you want a Montana for DS use, buy the 610 or a used 600.

    Bob
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    Thanks bob - finally got to views some vids also.
    Just have to get off my ass and order one before the 29th!