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  1. SteveP

    SteveP Ride Organizer

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    hey, I tried to vote for the second time from work, on a separate workstation, and I guess it's the same ISP, wouldn't let me vote off another machine...is that normal? At least it's not even a close call right now. Let's hope they don't just chuck the result because it's so one sided in our favour. I hope someone on our side is watching these results.
  2. RL

    RL Limited User

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    Found this.....what a read of comments :roll:
    http://northumberlandcfac.cenet.ca/?sec ... 9a4cbadc0a

    Seems these greenies keep throwing the Climate Change card at us motorized users now. Gee and what do these people drive to work, to the forest, to ???? plus heat there 4000sq 4 bath house.... on and on...I'm sure these hypocrites are not walking or using a Horse (oh wait Horses produce METHANE a known green house gas :roll: so they to should be banned) or heating there home's with a renewable energy

    Seems it is all about ME and screw you attitude...absolutly no co-operation in there INDIVIDUAL agenda :evil:


    Post a comment here..Have your say
    http://northumberlandcfac.cenet.ca/?sec ... 9a4cbadc0a


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  3. RL

    RL Limited User

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    my comments sent


    Why is alright to pave over the GTA and surrounding farm/forest lands next to cities all in the name of development so more people can have more places to live/work and that is a-okay. People may quietly complain but $$$$ rule the world.
    Yet run a ORV through a forest and all HELL breaks loose. The amount of so called damage is extremely minimal in comparison to the lands that are being paved over for development. I do not see trees dying cause of ORV use no more than I see trees dying from hiking/sking trails.
    Make any TRAIL in the forest, add users and you will get environmental damage period!!
    Once the organic ground cover is removed the trail will erode to some extent. Building PROPER trails goes a long ways to minimizing damage, along with regular maintenance.
    Better cooperation among ALL user groups is a MUST. And that means any INDIVIDUALS need to join a recognized user group and look at the BIG picture...not just the nimby picture. Ontario Trails Council is a good start for ones search of Organizations.
    As much as we pave over the GTA and areas we all need to recreate in our own ways....after all this is a FREE country is it not...learn to cooperate and we ALL benefit.
    Working together goes a lot further.
    Enough of this "me" attitude....work together!!
  4. Demon

    Demon ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Some of the comments in that link you provided are just plain IGNORANT and nerrow minded. My blood boils when I read them.

    "Get your act together, dirt bikers and ATVers...do something productive with your lives instead of roaring around without purpose"

    "Dirt bikes and ATVs are not compatible with natural systems and anyone who
    is serious about protecting an area should keep them out.
    David Suzuki"

    Damn that Suzuki guy ....Lets all go to the stone age (and with a name like that-Irony)
  5. allan68

    allan68 Limited User

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    Yeah, lots of negative comments in there.
    I'll be posting mine later today...we should all have our say.
    Some goods points to touch on could be:

    The family aspect of trail riding
    Belonging to an organized club
    Spending money locally while using the forest
    Our "trail clean up days", which have included Ganaraska, Simcoe County and St. Williams
  6. 3BeeJay3

    3BeeJay3 ODSC Past President

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    To add to Allan's list ;

    Fundraisers such as Ride for Sight, MADD, and Megs Ride.
    Oh, and the fact that lots of women ride also.
  7. Yamahammer

    Yamahammer Limited User

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    Here's my letter, wonder if it's too big to be posted?

  8. Randy_K

    Randy_K Limited User

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    Please, lets try to preserve what we have left and find another form of activity to occupy extra hours of time for these people...mentoring children, Big Brothers/Big Sisters, volunteer work, picking up garbage on road sides, etc.

    I guess they want me to sell my bike and pick up roadside garbage, I have likely spent more time cleaning up trails then them.


    Husky FOR SALE,,, yea right[/u]
  9. 3BeeJay3

    3BeeJay3 ODSC Past President

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    Excellent letter - Rob
  10. RL

    RL Limited User

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    A Greenie video of us mean ORV'ers in Northumberland Forest
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3KeODAGOiM
    :roll:

    A Northumberland Forest video of a Motorcycle TRAIL..humm can hardly see the trail it is so TINY :lol:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=UHdBUABf7Yk&feature=related

    Another reason to put put down the fireroads etc as no one sees you in the TRAILS (Greenies likely could not find it :lol: )but they sure see you on the straight and wide roads.
    :roll:


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    ....Nice Letter ROB... excellent perspective
  11. Yamahammer

    Yamahammer Limited User

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    I once read that the only civilization which had NO discernable impact on the natural world was that of the American Indians.

    So, if David Suzuki were supreme ruller, would he reduce the population of Canada back to 10,000 people living in wood shelters and forraging for food? Whom would he sell his books to, and who would watch his television programs?

    :roll:

    I want to save the planet. I really do. But I feel powerless. David Suzuki has so much ability to get the attention of vast amounts of citizenry... and he spends his time trying to save the humped back blue spotted horned tree toads.

    Why doesn't he instead do a flyover of Alberta, show the gas flares, the tarsands tailings, stripping of millions of acres of top soil to get at the tarsand underneath, etc... Huge portions of Alberta look like a scene out of some post apocolyptic movie. And they're burning huge amounts of natural gas just to crack the oil out of the sands (good energy after bad).

    But most people haven't seen this.

    If I want to go to the GTA, why do I have a choice: Spend $40 on a Via rail ticket, or $20 in gas. You can cross all of France on $20! AND do it faster than you could in a car.

    Why are people FLYING from Ottawa to Toronto? A train could concievably make the trip in less time than it would take you to get through customs at the airport! And use 1/10th the fuel!

    Oh, but the blue spotted toads! Let's focus on them!
  12. RL

    RL Limited User

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    A letter from the Facilitator
    http://northumberlandcfac.cenet.ca/uplo ... idents.pdf

    Guess congrats to all in attendance for there conduct...as expected. Guess the greenies...or someone's were saying otherwise :roll:

    And the Comments
    http://northumberlandcfac.cenet.ca/?sec ... 9a4cbadc0a

    just keeping getting more ignorant....especially the fact that riding a machine with a seat takes no physical effort :roll: ....IGNORANT.
    And the ATV'ers and Sledders are fat and getting fatter for recreating in this manner :roll:
    Lots of ATV hatred.

    Pease do have your say and add your 2 cents to that thread....at least be a voice of reason.
  13. S+M

    S+M Limited User

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    Gretchen and Vivian must really be missing out on some regular good old fashioned 'love' and 'affection'. There's some serious pent up frustration brewing in those two.
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    We need to keep them talking, using reason and common sense, it absolutely frustrates them and the more they talk the more foolish they look.

    Ms. harris is oft quoted in the local paper and is treated as credible. Should she keep posting hysterical comments council and the public will stop listening.
  15. RL

    RL Limited User

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    Bill is VERY right in his comments above.

    Make them scream and quietly/respectfully discredit them...till nobody listens to there nonsense.

    I see now we are being called THUGS.....hummm :?
    And we "rototill" the grounds we cover ....hummm :?

    They do love to threaten and call us names......bullies of the sand box I guess we can call them :roll: .

    Read comment 91
    http://northumberlandcfac.cenet.ca/?sec ... 9a4cbadc0a
  16. 3BeeJay3

    3BeeJay3 ODSC Past President

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    Thank you for all that have been writing comments - they are well written and raise very good points.

    It is absolutely paramount that we continue to behave as respectfully as possible, to all involved. Stick to the main issues, avoid getting distracted with verbal mudslinging and hyperbole and focus on productive win-win solutions for everyone. At the same time, we don't have to accept disrespectful or bullying behavior. Ignore the negative behavior and continue to focus our communications to the FAC.

    We do have a basic human right to use the forest- as long as we follow our code of conduct.

    When is the next FAC meeting?

    BJ
  17. RL

    RL Limited User

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    Given whats happening...I revive this

    Add your say
  18. Demon

    Demon ODSC-OFTR Member

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    What happened lately?
  19. DMignon

    DMignon Ride Organizer

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    Ye, what is happening?
  20. BinzerBob

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    You know I don't know why we can not get together to have a section of crownland forest designated as motorized vehicle use only. Or isn't that what Ganaraska and North Humberland was?

    Start from scratch, or take a section of what we already are using, but stamp it in cold hard ink motorized use only.

    If they take away the North Humberland, they will take away Ganni it is only in time this will happen, so why not give us a place that we can make trails and don't tell us to get out?!