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  1. hardman

    hardman ODSC-OFTR Member

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    This past weekend I rode up to Miller Lake just south of Tobermory. I created 3 routes in BaseCamp using all back roads and gravel roads to travel up there. It was a very pleasant trip (some amazing small gravel roads) other than the weather. On my way back down I was in for a nasty surprise as I was unable to reverse my routes and had not save my tracks.

    I've done a little research into the 78s and although the manual tells you how to reverse the routes, it seems only routes actually created on the unit can be reversed. Uploaded routes from BaseCamp does not give you the option to reverse the route in the unit. I sent an email to GPS city and they have confirmed that the routes can only be reversed in BaseCamp and than uploaded to the unit.

    I find this hard to believe as even my old Garmin eTrex unit could reverse uploaded routes.

    I'm wondering if others have the same unit and come across this issue?

    Hardy
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    DualSport Ride Organizer

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    If you use BaseCamp to transfer your route to the 78S, then you MUST first set the Activity to "Direct Routing" before you transfer it, despite how you created it or plan to use it on the GPS.

    You can then Reverse it and/or navigate with it in "Follow Roads" mode.

    Bob
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    hardman ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Hi Bob

    Many thanks for your advise.

    I have also researched Garmin's forum and found others having this issue with the same unit. It was suggested there to create a duplicate route (not a copy) and than invert it in BaseCamp after which they can be uploaded to the 78s. I have tried it and it does work, but you now have basically two copies of the same route on the Garmin unit, one to the destination and the other one back.

    On another note I have also been corresponding with Garmin support and they have asked me to download "HomePort". This software is very similar to BaseCamp but designed for marine gps units such as my 78s. Garmin has mentioned there should be no issue if I create my routes in HomePort and upload them to my unit. I have just started to play around with HomePort a little today and so far it functions exactly like BaseCamp. It automatically is using the BackRoads mapping software.

    I'm going to import some of my routes from BaseCamp into HomePort and than upload them into the 78s to see I it will give me the option to reverse the routes there.

    Will let you know.
    Hardy
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    DualSport Ride Organizer

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    Hi hardy
    The problem is BaseCamp and the way it transfers routes to 62/64/87 Series, Montana, Oregon, etc. Mapsource (which I still use) transfers the routes to my Montana and 64 that are reversable on the GPS, but Mapsource always uses the same GPX filename so you need to rename it on the GPS or it will be overwritten by the next Route you send over.

    I just installed HomePort and it's a stripped down version of BaseCamp. Because it's a Marine program it doesn't have different Routing types - Faster, Shorter, Direct, etc. Boats navigate point to point so all it's routes are by default in "Direct" routing mode.

    Perhaps it just sends your route as a Direct (straight line route) route and hence is able to be Reversed.

    Bob
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    hardman ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Bob

    You mention that the I must set the activity to "Direct Routing" before transfering the routes to my 78s. Do I set this in BaseCamp or do I set the 78s to direct routing?

    Hardy
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    DualSport Ride Organizer

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    When this issue first came up a few years back, it was recommended that BaseCamp must be set to "Direct" routing activity, and then Send the route to your GPS. I actually never had the issue as I always used Mapsource, even though Garmin said you must use BaseCamp.

    Not sure what BaseCamp and/or the GPS does during the transfer process, but this was a big item with new Montana users, and Dan Townley on the ADVrider "New Montana" thread posted that workaround.

    As this was a few years back, Garmin may have made some changes in BaseCamp and/or GPS firmware to fix this issue.

    If you are still having an issue, send me your GPX file with the affected routes, and I'll do a few tests to see what is going on.

    Bob