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  1. Demon

    Demon ODSC-OFTR Member

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    So I have a snowmobile.

    It was given away to me after sitting in a yard for 5 years. No ownership, no way to find the previous REGISTERED owner.

    Its NOT stolen.

    How can I get an ownership for it and register it? MTO was NOT helpfull at all. Told me, there IS no way - find the previous owner. WTF

    Im trying to get legal. Having issues finding the law about that.
  2. McRobert

    McRobert Limited User

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    Find posted on an other post a blank copy of an affidavit, fill it out explaining how you came in to ownership. Then have it notarized. Take it back to the MTO. There are 4 pages explaining this procedure in the MTO manual, in a 3" thick binder in every MTO office. hey I just found a copy. If you need more help call my cell 905 nine five 5 082 three

    Robert

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  3. taylorericjohn

    taylorericjohn ODSC-OFTR Member

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    I just did this with an old XT, My uncle passed away and had left the bike to me, no ownership, no bill of sale, no will , no nothing. The MTO first made me buy a used vehicle package and try to contact the last registered owner. When that didn't work they then had me get a letter from my aunt saying that she had knowledge of me being given the bike. Then I went in and filled an affidavit saying that it was given to me and not stolen. All and all it took me an easy 2 hrs of time at the MTO. I would before you go in, go see whoever you got the sled from and get a letter from them saying they gave it too you. Good luck
  4. Demon

    Demon ODSC-OFTR Member

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    where do I notorize such a statement and how much is it going to cost me?


    Thank guys - i get more info here then 3 different MTOs and lost of phone calls
  5. Canadaler

    Canadaler ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Look in the Yellow Pages under "Notary Public"...they're usually just a local lawyer's office.

    I think when I had this done for a KX I owned (previous owner deceased) it cost me something like $40.
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    McRobert Limited User

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    Most city halls have a notary on staff and will do it for free. Or call your lawyer most will not charge you if you have used them for something in the past.
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    RatchRacing Limited User

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    Some MTO's will notorize an affidavit, cost is $10
  8. taylorericjohn

    taylorericjohn ODSC-OFTR Member

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    +1 on the MTO that is where I had mine done. Usually they have one staff member that can do it. Make sure you take some cash with you because they make you pay cash for it
  9. CoyoteJeepGuy

    CoyoteJeepGuy Ride Organizer

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    I just did the one for my son's bike and it was at City Hall. Cost was $33.90.
  10. CoyoteJeepGuy

    CoyoteJeepGuy Ride Organizer

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    Okay, so I went back the license office again today to get a green plate for my son's TTR. This being the second trip. The first time they told me I needed an affidavit saying how I bought it and from who and what I paid, etc.....
    So this time I go back and they said that because the bike is a 2000 then I need an ownership from the dealer, I don't know how to get intouch with the woman I bought the bike from so I am hoping the Yamaha dealer can help me with this. I am getting really tired of them adding things when I go and get what they ask for.
    Good Luck to all that are doing this.
  11. Canadaler

    Canadaler ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Are you just green plating the TTR?

    My understanding was that you didn't really have to have anything more than an affidavit to do that.

    What they're looking for you to get is not the ownership from the dealer...but the NVIS (New Vehicle Information Sheet) from the dealer. This is the document they use to input the bike's VIN number into the MTO's system.
  12. CoyoteJeepGuy

    CoyoteJeepGuy Ride Organizer

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    Ok this is getting really annoying, I have been to the MTO office 3 times now and all three times have come away with a different requirement. I called the MTO office that the permissions come from and they told me without a NVIS or a Certificate of Origin or an ownership they will not grant me a green plate for my son's TTR. So next I called Yamaha Canada and requested help obtaining any of the above mentioned items (after trying the local dealer and the dealer in BC where the bike was originally purchased) and they were no help either, they simply cut and paste the section from the website where it is described how the process is supposed to work. On the website there is no mention of having to have a NVIS or a Cert. of Origin but the guy on the phone is refusing anything but those documents. HELP from anyone on this would be great. My son can't use his bike on the trails where he is insured to ride and has memberships with me to ride on.
    Thanks for all responses.
    Art
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    ScottyR Limited User

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    Have you tried a different licence office?
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    Xhumeka Limited User

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    Exactly - give up with that office and find a new one... I went through the same BS with one office - jumped through 5 hoops only to be asked to jump through a 6th. Decided to try another office, and had my green plate within minutes.
  15. CoyoteJeepGuy

    CoyoteJeepGuy Ride Organizer

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    After typing a book of an affadavit, I got it all sorted out at a different office yesterday. My son is very happy to have a plate on his bike now. Thanks for all the advice. DON"T GO TO THE OFFICE AT WOODLAWN AND SILVERCREEK in GUELPH to do this. LOL LOL The office on Victoria in Kitchener was so much easier to deal with.
  16. Canadaler

    Canadaler ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Been there done that...agree...unless you enjoy beating your head against a brick wall repeatedly...skip this office.

    All these offices are independently owned contractors to the MTO. They're a business and like any business...some are customer oriented places of business...some are not. You have a choice as a consumer, feel free to exercise it.
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    suprf1y Limited User

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    Not all are contractors.
    Some are government employees, and service Ontario outlets. There are good, and bad ones, that's for sure.
  18. Demon

    Demon ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Just so everyone knows, I never sucseeded with transffering/getting a new ownership via affidevit- no one would help and everyone would give me the run around (what didnt help was that the VIN in their system had and extra 5 digits- unlike on the machine intelf)

    I did turn out finding the original owner whom barely remembered having a snowmobile, luckily enough he met up with me one day and actually retrieved a new ownership in his name for 10$ and sold it to me on the spot for 1$...... lucky I got a nice (rich) guy =)

    Here is how the snowmobile held up after I gave it a tune up.


    http://vimeo.com/35688534
  19. Dogger

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    When looking for bikes for my kids, I deliberately avoided ones w/o ownership just for this reason. It seems like such a PITA for something that should be fairly simple.

    Glad you finally got the sled on up and up, now we just need some snow!