Helmet law upheld

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... .whelmet06

Looks like he will have to wear a helmet after all.

Let's keep this civil. I feel the descision made by the court was valid.

He could always ride an ebike, where a helmet isnt required if you are over the age of 18

Nice to see someone has the b*lls to make the right decision!

xr650r
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Thank God!!! Common sense prevails.

Imagine that - a law being applied equally to everyone :shock:

Who'da thought. :lol:

Keep this thread on topic please.

From the Globe article - and the Judge is speaking here...

["Clearly, the decision to allow motorcycles to be used at all recognizes and accepts a significant degree of risk and concomitant social cost," he said at that time.]

Thank the gods of internal combustion that risk is still accepted for road riding... there is already so much constraint in off road riding areas and the blue plate rule tightening.

I've got to be accepting of our helmet laws considering the social costs because we also enjoy social medicine. But they (helmet laws) are a restriction on individual freedoms, just like our ability to choose some motorcyles (for road use) that don't "conform" to blue plate rules. "rights and freedoms" truly are a compromise.

If I lived in in a place where we all paid for our own health care individually, I'd wear my helmet (and gear) to get cheaper health insurance, and because I hate pain, catheters, and feeding tubes. But I'd be happy to ride with anyone willing to self insure or pay the premium to ride with a cloth skull cap, or turban if they so chose for themselves.

Canadians aren't quite as "free" as the Americans where many states have no helmet law, but it's a good compromise for me. I feel for this guy who can't exercise his freedom to ride with a truban, but he needs to take Canada as a package deal. We've got winter, and we've got social medicine, and we've got religious freedom, and we've got motorcycling that's legal on roads and road allowances and some trails, and we've got helmet laws, and a whole lot more than most of the world. That's all OK by me.

Dave

I doubt this is over.

I agree - the fact that similar arguments actually passed in BC and Manitoba would make people continue to try an get it here too. I have to say that it looks very strange to me that he was supported by the Ontario Human Rights Commission. If anything , it's his religion that is preventing him him from riding a bike in Ontario , not the other way around.A religion is a commitment that has a "price". And if you can't hold your commitments to your religion , you cant go around asking the rest of the world to change so it's easier for you....it's not a handicap - it's a religion.it's a choice you make , and need to live with and respect.

FINALLY!

Finally a judge who employs common sense and is'nt a friggin pushover.

One down, about 7000 to go.

I guess mr Baljinder Badesha has a choice.......ride a motorcycle by the rules......or dont ride a motorcycle.

I might send this judge a nice new "sword"!

I doubt this is over also. Mr. Badeshi and his group have already said they will lobby their MPP's to get the law changed.
I will lobby my MPP to keep the status quo and let common sense prevail.

I agree with David here- if anything, maybe he should be suing his religious leaders for discrimination against his right to ride motorcycles?? Sounds silly, but ..............???

BJ

Re: FINALLY!

Actually, his name is Mr. Baljinder Badesha...please keep the post respectful.

[quote="3BeeJay3 I agree with David here- if anything, maybe he should be suing his religious leaders for discrimination against his right to ride motorcycles?? Sounds silly, but ..............???

BJ[/quote]

Actually, riding a motorcycle is a priviledge, not a right. The way I look at it if he wants the priviledge of riding a motorcycle then he has to follow the rules just like everyone else.

Good to see this common sense has won this battle.

Maybe we can go to this judge so that we can get a ruling that allows us to stand on the pegs to stretch our legs and bottom??

True-

But he does have a right(as we all do) to apply for, be tested and gain a license which grants the priviledge of riding a motorcycle on public roads.
I think it could be argued that the religion he chooses to practice may be infringing on this right........... Either way, it comes down to his personal choice.

The question I have about these issues: Why should established laws and institutions(that apply to all of society equally)be asked to bear the burden of change to accommodate any special interest group, when the reason for the change is clearly a result of personal choice? Should not the person asking for change be asking the special interest group/institution to make the accommodation instead?

BJ

Now what about traffic officers looking in car windows to see if the passenger is under 16 if an adult is smoking instead of catching tailgating speeders?

You can't punch your kids in the head while you are driving why should you be able to give them cancer?

Just a thought.... :-k how did he get a license? He could not have past the road test without wearing a helmet. So does he have a license at all? and if he does - he had a helmet on passing the test. So....if he had it on then, how come he can't put it on now :shock: ?

Good point!!!!!

Man, I'm jones'n for a ride!
:snow: :snow: :axe: :snow: :snow:

Well IF this issue does get passed in the future..then we should all have the same right to wear a turben instead of a helmet.
Would I then be pulled over for wearing a turben and being a white rider???hmmm?? Wouldn't seem fair to me if I did and then I would have to go to court for being discriminated against, wouldn't I? Would folks of another race not be subjected to being pulled over? Not all brown people are silks. Do they even have some sort of card or I.D to prove that they are silk and eligible to ride helmet free? If not then I could simply say, sure I am a silk myself prove that I'm not! Let's get real, you gotta drawn the line somewhere!
Is this guy is just trying to get out of a ticket? Funny we never heard of him until his ticket. Pay the ticket and wear a helmet on the next test ride around the block.

Can't you just do the written test and go ride, or have things changed?

Will I pass my test?

With a M1 licence, it is only a written test. To get your M2 you have to ride a test. To get your full M you have to do a on road test.
So you can walk into a MTO office and walk out and jump on your bike and go.