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  1. MichaelSchorpp

    MichaelSchorpp Ride Organizer

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    I'm about to start constructing some singletrack trail. One of my main concerns is keeping it as singletrack. Many times I've seen new singletrack go in, only to see ATV'ers force their way in and widen it. I have zero experience in creating trail, so I thought I would ask here for some tips.

    Amongst the most obvious items are:

    Keep the entrance to the singletrack as concealed and as tight as possible. I think I have this one covered.

    Route the trail in between tree stumps, boulders, fallen trees etc, anything with a limited opening that is below handlebar width.

    The terrain in question is an area of mature hardwood, on very hilly Canadian shield. Another idea was to route trail across the face of hills. Off camber trail increases the effective width on an ATV, where as on a bike it has no effect. I don't know how viable this idea is-there might be some concerns with erosion. It would also be harder to ride, especially the first few times it is ridden!

    I would like to tap the collective wisdom of the club here. So feel free to chime in.

    Mike.
  2. SteveP

    SteveP Ride Organizer

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    we have been building some locally also lately on land we have permission to ride on. It's a good idea to also have your access point away from the main routes, so that the access isn't seen by many atv'ers. Then, the standard entrance between two bar width trees up something knarly is a good way to deter. They also don't like log crossings do they? Something at least knee height. I'm sure TE450Pilot will post some of the new stuff we made today!
  3. BinzerBob

    BinzerBob Limited User

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    Please take this with a smile ......


    And who says we are not working together?

    I like to make some single track that don't turn into Hiking trails.
  4. Canadaler

    Canadaler ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Try and make your trail route between larger trees that the quads can't smash down.

    Utilize off-camber sections on hills.

    Tight corners.

    All in all it's a bit like trying to keep rats out of a grainery. Once they get in it'll be almost impossible to control them.
  5. BinzerBob

    BinzerBob Limited User

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    I say explain to them .... "hey do you guys want to make two trails side by side, one mostly for you ATV guys and one for Single track type riding only to be used for Dirt Bike".

    Get them on board and explain that we like to ride single track because it is a better experience technical type riding or what ever the reason is, and say some 20 yards over or 50 yards over away from the single track the other wider track can be made for ATV use.. .Hey then say 40 yards over away from the ATV trail a Horse / hiking trail can be made.

    For sure signage is needed. Maybe that is why the ATV's go into single track areas, because they do not know they are not suppose to? If I had an ATV I would like to ride single track type stuff too unless I know I was not suppose to, and if there was a trail more appropriate for my ATV some 40 yard the other way.

    Just an idea, maybe you can try it out and see if it works (let us know). It seems the other approaches do not seem to work at all.
  6. Randy_K

    Randy_K Limited User

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    To "make" a ATV trail usually never involves geting of the ATV. Most guys just bash down what the can and call it a trail.

    Having made trails the last two weeks i can tell you it is a lot of work. Luckily we have several helpers. I will admit Steve rides his KLR like a ATV

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