WTF? http://www.odsc.on.ca/.xenforo/index.php?threads/riding-near-guelph.21536/page-7#post-142363 Really? I guess it hasn't occurred to you guys that maybe you'd have a larger membership, and wouldn't have the slowest moving forum on the internet, if you'd drop this childish "members only", clubhouse attitude. I've been on and off this board since the '90's and have been a paying member on occasion but this is ridiculous. What's the big harm in people organizing rides? Maybe it would get them interested enough to attend one of the rides with the "special" people... Your current attitude won't foster that, quite the contrary. Then again, it is in line with you warring with the ATV riders rather than joining forces and working towards a common goal of preserving and developing riding areas. Oh well... End rant. Happy trails.