"Recently a post was started in the Competitive Riding Events forum which was questioning why race turn out was so low. It generated lots of hits, lots of comments and the discussion led to bigger overall issues and questions like: 1-why does there seem to be a lower number of racers in Ontario compared to other provinces and regions (like Quebec, BC and Albera) 2-why don't we get more spectators out to events? 3-where are the new riders going to come from considering the loss of areas to ride? 4-how do we protect the areas we now have available to ride, try to reclaim some we've lost and develop new lands? 5-is there a "big tent" type of arrangement we could strike, not just between different motorcycle race sanctioning groups and clubs, but one which goes outside our "normal" circle to include other trail users, land owners and environmental groups 6-is this a worthy cause to pursue?...and if so...what would it look like and how would we get it moving?" My answers to the questions above: 1. Probably because Ontario is more urban proportionally, and not as motorsports oriented like Quebec and Alberta. Or just less land. Just a guess though. 2. Because amateur off-road racing is boring to watch. Pro races are OK, but the nature of the sport is not spectator friendly like MX. That’s why Endurocross is gaining popularity. Get over it. If the Blue Jays or Argos can only get 10,000 people, don’t hold your breath for our sport. 3. New riders can only develop if there are places to ride. Grass roots play riding is the only way. 4. Protect what we have now by being responsible. We’ll have to pay-to-play in the future. 5. Yes. 6. Absolutely. The OFTR has done a tremendous job of bringing a recognizable voice and face to off-road motorcyclists in Ontario. But our sport is still way too fractured. ALL motorcycle organizations need to be brought under one umbrella to be effective in the battle for hearts and minds (OFTR; OO; MCC; CMRC; PMP; FMSQ and many more I’m sure I missed). I imagine a day when all motorcyclists would be represented by one umbrella organization in Canada, to be an effective voice to governments – call it something like the Canadian Motorcycle Association or CMA! :wink: Maybe the future lies with the private parks coming online, such as Burnt River. The best comparison to off-road riding I can make is Alpine skiing. A recreation activity every family member can participate in, at the same place, on the same day, at their own pace. It costs a family of four at least $120-$280 per day to ski depending on age and resort. I bet my family spends at least $2000 /yr, not including food, gas, overnight accommodation and ski gear. Makes an annual Ganny membership seem pretty damn reasonable. And that’s in only 3 months of what we call winter in Ontario. If you went to an off-road park, you would want MX tracks and marked trails. Now what if there were a chalet that you could get food in, decent washrooms, medical facilities, a pro-shop for repairs etc.? A place that would run daily lessons and maybe even bike rentals for your non-riding friends…? I know dirt biking will never be as popular as Alpine skiing, but surely there’s enough demand for quality off-road parks around the province. I know MotoPark was/is sort of like that, but they’re few and far between. I have about $16,000 invested in four dirtbikes in my family. That’ll be amortized over a quite a few years (my bike is now 4 years old). So call it spending $4000 / yr in bikes alone, not including maintenance and riding gear. But what do I pay to ride? Not much in comparison to the bike value, or to the cost of skiing. Let’s assume 10 race entries for me per year, at $40 each. $400 – no big deal. The kids race club MX – 20 races x $30 = $600 until they move up to big bikes. So call it $1000 per season for now. The rest of the time is spent on public land. Let’s face it. We didn’t get into dirt biking because it’s cheap. We’re doing it because it’s the BEST sport in the world. If we’d pay the money, we’d have the right to demand service – from either private facilities or the Province. Just my 2 cents.